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February 5, 2004 | Archived Talking Points

Contents:

  • The China Syndrome
    HRC agrees with Nancy Reagan's china policy!

  • Hillary the Most Popular?
    For those who think that John Kerry or John Edwards may be a shoe-in now for the Democratic presidential nomination, think again. The Clintons want to control the party - totally!

  • New Zogby Poll shows Bush as weak
    Hillary - and Bill - know that this poll spells trouble and opportunity for them. Trouble in that another Democrat could possible defeat Bush this year. In that case, Hillary would be blocked from a White House run until 2012. And the Clintons will lose control of heir party. The gravy train will no longer be their's.


The China Syndrome
Rush & Molloy, February 5, 2004, New York Daily News

Nancy Reagan ducked brickbats as First Lady when she bought new cups and saucers for the White House with donated funds.

But Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton agreed with her china policy, according to former Reagan aide Michael K. Deaver. The author of a new hagiography, "Nancy," says that, when HRC was First Lady, she once rushed up to Reagan and gushed, "I just want to tell you how grateful I am you bought that set of china. I use it all the time."

That didn't cure Nancy's Clintonphobia. At the dedication of the new Reagan Building in 1998, President Bill Clinton gave her a hug.

Writes Deaver: "Nancy looked like a mugger had embraced her."

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Hillary Strikes Back

For those who think that John Kerry or John Edwards may be a shoo-in now for the Democratic presidential nomination, think again. The Clintons want to control the party - totally!

And they hope that the nomination process will be deadlocked and then the party leaders will beg Hillary to ride to the rescue.

Just look at this new poll:

Hil tops Bill in new poll

WASHINGTON - Sen. Hillary Clinton comes out on top in a new poll of Democrats. She even beats her husband.The Time/CNN survey gives New York's junior senator a whopping 73% favorability rating, 35 points higher than any of the Democrats vying for the party's presidential nod. The only Dem who comes close to her numbers is her husband, former President Bill Clinton, who was liked by 71% of those polled. Sen. Clinton's numbers mirror polls that showed she would have won if she jumped into the Democratic primaries. Clinton found herself repeatedly denying late last year that she had designs on the White House in 2004. Meanwhile, former Mayor Rudy Giuliani laughed off yesterday a Marist College poll released last week that showed him beating Clinton, 50% to 46%, among registered New York voters if he tries to take her Senate seat in 2006.But he didn't rule out taking on the former First Lady."I'm not thinking about it right now," he told CNN's "Late Edition.""A poll about that is totally useless at this point."

Hillary is the most popular Democrat - now. Do you think she'll be as popular in 2008?
Or does this poll tell her that now is the time to jump into the fray?

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New Zogby Poll shows Bush as weak

As Democrats Vote in Iowa and New Hampshire, President Bush Looks Vulnerable in Both His Re-Elect and Face-Off with Generic Democrat; Bush’s Job Performance 49% Positive, 50% Negative; Democrats Lead Over Republicans in Congressional Generic, New Zogby International Poll Reveals President George W. Bush’s job performance has dropped since mid- December, while his vulnerability increases when matched against an unnamed Democrat or when respondents are asked if he should be re-elected.

The most recent Zogby America poll of 1000 likely voters chosen at random was conducted January 15-18, 2004 and has a margin of error of +/- 3.2 percentage points. Slight weights were added to region, party, age, race, religion, and gender to more accurately reflect the voting population. Margins are higher in sub-groups.

Bush Job PerformancePositive%Negative %
January 15-18, 20044950
December 15-17, 20035347
December 4-6, 20034951
November 3-5, 20034852
October 15-18, 20034951
September 22-24, 20035049
September 3-5, 20034554
August 20035248
July 20035346
March 20035445
September 20026436
September 20018217
August 20015049
January 20014236


Overall opinion of the President has dropped from mid-December. Nearly half (49%) say their opinion of him is somewhat or very favorable, while 50% say it is somewhat or very unfavorable. In December, opinion was 53% favorable, 47% unfavorable. The most recent Zogby America poll of 1000 likely voters chosen at random was conducted January 15-18, 2004 and has a margin of error of +/- 3.2 percentage points. Slight weights were added to region, party, age, race, religion, and gender to more accurately reflect the voting population. Margins are higher in sub-groups.

DateBush %Any Democrat %
January 15-18, 20044145
December 15-17, 20034742
December 4-6, 20034341
November 3-5, 20034141
October 15-18, 20034345
September 22-24, 20034145
September 3-5, 20034047
August 20034343
June 20034437


The President remains behind in his ‘re-elect’ numbers, where 41% of likely voters now say he deserves to be re-elected, while 48% say it is time for someone new. In early September polling, 52% said it was time for someone new, and just two in five (40%) said he deserves re-election.

Americans are equally split on whether they think the US is headed in the right direction, with 45% saying it is the right direction, and 42% voicing "wrong direction." Thirteen percent are not sure.

Pollster John Zogby: "The country is clearly divided just as it was during the 2000 election. According to the O'Leary/Zogby Red & Blue State Monitor, a plurality of Red State voters (Bush 2000) voters believe the country is headed in the right direction (49%), while 38% say it’s the wrong direction. In the Blue States (Gore 2000) 46% think the country is headed in the wrong direction while 41% say it's the right direction. In both Red and Blue States (13%) a similar number unsure.In spite of the bounce that he received after 9-11; 'Mission Accomplished' in Iraq on Thanksgiving and the Saddam capture, the President seems to be caught in magnetic field with both sides pulling him right back to the 50-50 center.

Hillary - and Bill - know that this poll spells trouble and opportunity for them. Trouble in that another Democrat could possible defeat Bush this year. In that case, Hillary would be blocked from a White House run until 2012. And the Clintons will lose control of heir party. The gravy train will no longer be their's.

Opportunity in that if Bush is vulnerable, the Clintons can manipulate the Democratic nomination process to their benefit. Their goal? Either to keep Bush in power or, if he is going to lose, to get the nomination for Hillary.

Dean's demise in Iowa and the rise of Edwards, Kerry and Clark only muddy the waters even more.

Believe this: the Clintons want to keep control of the Democratic Party. They will do anything to keep that control because without it they lose their power.

Bush's recent weakening makes it more likely that Hillary will run this year - 2004 - for President.

We must be ready. And we must stop her. We cannot let it happen again.

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